Interview with Dr. Richard Bartlett and Dr. Alexandria Watkins on their success of using inhaled Budesonide on the current disease They have both treated thousands of patients successfully. For more information, go to
Here we have west texas news and talk this is the voice of west texas news talk 50 kcrs good morning and welcome to your morning drive news talk 550 kcrs it’s the voice of west texas i’m chris moore joining me in studio this morning dr richard barkley and and alex watkins we got siri joining us also this morning as a special special guest good morning youtube good
Morning alex thank you so much for coming in this morning of course throughout this with dr bartlett coming in a year now a year now talking about covet 19 and of course his treatment with budesimide and how successful and what an adventure it’s been but he’s always talked about you always talked about you sent people your way because you embraced his treatment
And you’ve been using it in big spring for a year a year now kind of talk us through the whole process and what you’ve seen with patients you’ve treated sure sure it has been a year i’ve been treating people in howard county statewide and also nationwide so it’s really kind of sent out some feeders for me there and i became a believer in this treatment not
Only because i believe in dr bartlett but i also get the chance to do some pretty in-depth research about budesinide and why it would be a beneficial drug therapy for a disease such as covid19 and so because of that i was able to hit the ground running from day one and it has just proven to be very beneficial from day one currently right now i ran some numbers
Yesterday evening and i’m looking at about 2800 patients a little over 2 800 patients that i have treated successfully with budesinide so it’s an inheld steroid and the reason why it’s been so successful is because we look at covid19 as a inflammatory respiratory disease we have other disease processes like this out there such as asthma copd things of that
Nature and then also in my research i found that it was successful therapy for um the sars virus in 2003. so we had a little bit of history behind us and then we also know how uh other inflammatory respiratory disease processes work and so it just really gave me that good foundation to like i say hit the ground running from day one and so we’ve just been very
Successful with it thus far and uh i forgot the number now how many 2 800. over 2 800 patients so far nationwide okay from the beginning till today can you tell a difference in people who are more people coming in and getting treated as from the very beginning when you know they were telling them please please stay home until so so there’s been a there has
Been a shift um in the beginning um patients were told that there was no treatment and so usually when um i would get a phone call from them for a telemedicine visit you know they were in 10 days 11 days 12 days and with any kind of inflammatory disease you know inflammation just keeps building and building and you know it’s not going to get any better until
You you know stop the bleeding essentially and so in the beginning of this process it was very tough i was fighting an uphill battle with almost every patient because i was getting to them you know a weekend or a week past into the disease process so over time i’ve i’ve had the privilege of going and lecturing just educating people about what coven 19 is that
We do have therapies and we do have treatment that is successful you know believe it or not what you know what some people may tell you and because of that i’ve noticed over time i started getting uh more and more phone calls where people were you know in the first 24 48 hours of the disease process versus two weeks and so because we were able to start early
Aggressive treatment i noticed i wasn’t fighting an uphill battle and patients were they were very successful with this we were able to protect their lungs even more so because it didn’t get to that you know severe inflammatory state and so yes there i am starting to see that trend uh where more providers are are you know coming on and using budesonide as a
Therapy i believe on budesonideworks.com we have a list of providers that have embraced this therapy and have seen it work for themselves i’m sure there’s actually i believe there’s some providers on that website that are in the 2000s as well just like myself okay um we now are talking that there could be possible other variants that are coming out and we’ve had
Phone calls on it even though they’re saying that the vaccine now that there’s three available will probably help to combat it do you think budesimon is also going to be able to combat the new variants i do because this disease process you know so sars cov2 causes covid19 the disease okay so so we are looking at sars cov2 but mutated forms of it and we know as
Healthcare providers that viruses are constantly mutating that’s why they’re so difficult to treat and that’s why it’s so difficult to find cures for them and things of that nature because because they’re evolving so i believe that most providers when this when this disease started we we had the understanding that there were going to be mutated forms so when i
When i do an education piece i always explain that you know that sars cov2 is the virus that causes covid19 the symptoms that people present with so we will continue to treat those mutated forms with steroids inhaled steroids like budesonide because it’s still going to decrease that inflammatory response thus giving the patient a more successful about with this
Disease process so yes we recognize there’s mutated forms yes we understand that that’s part of how viruses work but but so far there’s no need to change the protocol up because the virus still causes the same symptoms and that’s what we’re treating we’re treating the patient well let’s talk from the very beginning in case anybody is listening right now and they
Know that their friend has just been exposed to cobid and it’s not real clear on what they need to do so as a provider medical provider what is your advice for someone that has been exposed to covid19 or is experiencing any kind of symptoms sure so with with exposure um typically when a patient calls me um and and they can get a hold they have our information on
The website budesiniteworks.com um but they will call and we’ll set up a telemedicine visit with them and i go through a series of questions because of that exposure if i find that they’re not symptomatic and that exposure was very limited what i’ve been doing is starting them on a drug called ivermectin and this drug has been proven to be beneficial pre-during
And post-covet exposure dr corey presented this information to the department of homeland security in november and he had a pretty good caseload of patients that he used ivermectin with and had a very successful bout with it and so for those patients that have been exposed very limited not symptomatic i start them on ivermectin because it’s a very low risk high
Reward drug it’s metabolized by the liver it has only one contraindication with medications and that’s a drug called coumadin or warfarin a very limited amount of people on that drug these days um and so anyways that’s why i say very low risk high reward for somebody that’s been exposed now if they’ve been exposed and it was for a long period of time or say they’re
A caregiver for somebody that has coveted and they’re producing symptoms we will get them started on the protocol because again this is an inflammatory respiratory disease so the earlier we can protect the lungs the better off the patient so if i have a patient that’s symptomatic i know from a health care provider standpoint that this is going to progress into a
Severe form if we don’t stop it early so the goal is is to get them on treatment early we start them on budestine the inhaled steroid and i also am putting people on ivermectin as well with it when they’re symptomatic and we’re we’re driving down the opportunity for damage to the lungs from an inflammatory standpoint so they would set up a telemedicine visit
And we would decide which path we would go and the way i set up my uh the way i have set up my practice with this is i will continue to follow the patient for 10 days whether it was a light exposure heavy exposure symptomatic whatever it may be because i don’t i don’t want them feeling like this is what you have and just go on down the road so it’s a very uh
Intimate relationship between healthcare provider and patient so the patient always feels like that they have hope and that they have you know what they need to be successful against this disease process and see i love the telemedicine aspect of it so people can feel comfortable because they are they’re scared where do i go what do i need to do do i need to go
To an emergency clinic do i need to go to the emergency room do i need to call my doctor so you’ve made this so very easy it doesn’t matter if you’re in big spring odessa or you said you’ve treated people all over the united states as has dr bartlett so that makes it so much easier for folks that have those questions and those concerns about hobit 19. now if they
Are more in an advanced state do you continue the budestimate treatment like if they are having by some horrible horrible chance to have to be on a ventilator um yes i actually had a patient i had treated a family about six of the family members and they reached out to me they had a family member in the hospital in alabama and this particular family member they
They called the family and said you know she’s going to be intubated in in 12 hours and you know i think we need to call the family and we’ve seen this case she’s not going to make it and so of course i had this family reach out to me and graciously the doctor that was caring for her you know heard me out and i just pleaded you know can we please try budestinide
With this patient this patient was on other medications um and other steroids um but unfortunately they just were not helping the respiratory status and so that’s why i say graciously this doctor heard me out and he said you know we’ll do it after the first breathing treatment the patient started reporting she felt like she could breathe better um this happened
Seven days ago today she is on room air and she’s getting ready to leave the hospital yeah so so we went from coming down yes good news you know it is good news and so uh oxford university just came out with a study oxford is the oldest university in the english-speaking world since 1096. 72 nobel prize laureates they might know what they’re doing and they came
Out with a randomized controlled trial the creme de la creme top shelf evidence of medical facts in science it is showing that early budestinide treatment for covid specifically for covid can decrease hospitalizations by 90 percent 90 percent success with what our message has been since day one alex actually co-authored a paper with me a year ago explaining this
51 referenced articles it’s not a new thing that we have evidence we had evidence a year ago and we we even said two plus two equals four we put 51 uh cited references from jama from nih from many reputable sources all together in one paper so that any doctor or nurse practitioner or physician assistant could read it or or a patient could read it and understand why
This makes sense but even though we put that together it was still confusing for some people i don’t know why but the bottom line is oxford proved that it again that’s just another proof but we we have lots of evidence of it and yes it does work 90 there’s there’s not another therapy for cova that’s 90 percent uh proven uh we’ll know what happens with the vaccines
A year from now but we don’t know what the future holds with vaccines there is no we have no precedent with these vaccines to covet for humans they have used covet or coronavirus vaccines against animals but you’re not hearing about those results in the news people should research that but there is no there is no track record of success with the vaccines a year
Down the road i hope there is i hope there is but we know there’s no hoping we know facts over 90 percent of the patients that are treated early like alex has been doing with budesinite according to oxford would not even need urgent care visits emergency room visits hospitalizations what would have happened in odessa midland if the hospitals weren’t overwhelmed
And they didn’t need all these mobile morgues that they were reporting at one point the overworked hospital staff what if nine out of ten people that went into the hospitals didn’t go statewide and so um we don’t have a randomized controlled trial proving that mass and social distancing work for instance if there was you would have heard about it oxford didn’t
Prove that but oxford did prove that budesonide early treatment can save not only save lives but even keep you out of the hospital and out of the urgent care center in the emergency room i think that’s and save your life you know you know if you’re not sick enough to go in the hospital probably you’re going to be all right and so we have uh people who have list
Some of the comorbidities that you’ve treated alex i’ve seen everything that a human can have but what’s been your experience as far as these people many of them are very sick before they ever got coveted yeah yeah so of that 2 800 patients that i’ve treated 71 of them had hypertension which is high blood pressure which in the early days was noted as a comorbidity
That puts you at very very high risk for mortality with covid and so i have seen that with early treatment not the case a lot of patients that i treat have type 2 diabetes i wasn’t able to run the statistics on that unfortunately last night but it is you know a high majority of it they do very well with this inhaled steroid with diabetes just a side note you know
Steroids will drive their blood sugar up so we have to be very careful with that and budesonide does not it’s a very very low um opportunity for that because we’re it’s such a specific targeted uh steroid because we’re hitting the lungs directly so trace amounts of it may potentially drive blood sugar but it does not drive it up like a systemic steroid like a pill
That you would take per say i’ve treated patients that have just one lung i’ve treated patients that have one kidney i’ve treated patients that have had you know bowel issues you know things of that nature so it’s been very successful i had one patient most recently that was effective had renal cell carcinoma was on so he had one kidney was on dialysis and
Basically you know the doctor told the family you know this is this is a tough case he’s got covid you know we’ve met the end of the road unfortunately i was able to get a hold of the family and now this patient is still dealing with his other comorbidities but he did not die from covid he was treated for covet he did not die from covid um and so you know we’re
Not going to give up because because of certain comorbidities but yeah that my my most concerning patients i think were the ones that come to me and say oh by the way i only have one lung and i think well this is this isn’t very fair for me but they turn out and they do very well because this is a very a very effective targeted treatment we certainly appreciate
You coming in we are out of time alex watkins now they can find all your information there on budesimideworks.com do you have yeah it’s b-u-d-e-s-o-n-i-d-e budesonideworks.com b-u-d-e s-o-n-i-d-e and you can also give alex a call alex i know you are out of big spring but as i said video conference so yes yes let’s give them that phone number yes my phone number
Is 432-268-3773 well again thank you so much yes thank you you’ve done for all these people you’ve treated and dr bartlett as usual thank you for coming in and bringing alex with you this morning it’s been a wonderful treat good morning good morning west texas there is good news there certainly is thank you both we’re going to take a quick break it’s time for us to go into your time
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Dr. Bartlett & Alex Watkins on Budesonide Success By Budesonide Works